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Lucky F-4

Photo submitted by and remains the property of Bill Junkins

"This picture is of an F-4 that crash landed off of the end of the runway at Ubon. As near as I can remember this incident occurred in the Spring of 1972. Luckily, the crew survived. I cannot remember anything else regarding this incident."

Bill Junkins
Det. #3, 38th ARRSq.


Recollections of F-4 Pilots of stationed at Ubon at the time of the Incident. These comments are made 34 yrs. later.

"If that is the one I'm thinking of, it was a 435 TFS crew that landed in the water and just climbed out. They thought they had hit turbulence until one of them noticed the airspeed was zero but the altimeter was 1500' or some such number as that."
Tripper

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"I know the story well.  Lonnie P. and CRS the back seater (but  can see his face) were returning from a night strike somewhere.  TS in the  area, but it was SEA.  They were shooting the GCA into Ubon with Jay S.  waiting at the other end to TO on a night flare mission.  (Ubon landed one  way and took off the other.)  They vectored around a TS and as they were  approaching descended too low.  We later learned that the Air Date Computer  had a fault.  It would check OK in the aircraft and at the base level  maintenance, but would drive the altimeter to a false attitude.  The crew  thought they were at a safe altitude for the approach, but in fact were 700?  feet lower then the altimeter showed.  (The altimeter in the F-4 was not a  direct read instrument, it was corrected by the air date computer.)  When  the Thai controller could not find them after they vectored around the TS he did  not sound the alarm but decided he had pressing business elsewhere.  Now  the story gets complicated as Jay is waiting the inbound, and Lonnie and ? are  waiting for the final controller to give those well known instructions re  glideslope and course.  Lonnie described what happened to him when I  visited him in the base hospital that night after he was picked up.  He was  sitting up in his hospital bed with his hands still positioned where then would  have been on final.  Just no stick or throttles.  He said that he and  his back seater were cruising along waiting for the controller to start them  down (did I mention that this was the typical DS weather we saw at Ubon a lot of  the year) when he heard/felt a rumble.  His AS rolled off to zero.  He  was still flying, but had zero airspeed.  Imagine sitting in your Phantom,  confidently flying your GCA but having zero airspeed and your control imputs  having no effect.  It dawned on both cockpits simultaneously that they had  crashed.  They did the egress drill (inside, outside, topside, over the  side) and jumped into waist high rice paddy water.  (I suspect that the  average rice paddy would not meet EPA standards for, among other things,  coliform content.)  Spying a tree, they waded to it and deployed their  rescue radios.  You will recall that they were activated by pulling out the  antenna.  As Lonnie related, "pulling out" did not  really mean  "pulling them completely out."  Lonnie pulled the first one loose from the  radio.  It was on, but merely acted as a jammer for the other one which he  deployed properly."

"Pan to Jay S., still waiting for clearance to take off.  After a  certain period had passed, Jay called the tower to inquire as to where the  incoming traffic had gone.  Suddenly the dots were connected, and the tower  realized
the problem.  They launched Jay to sort out the situation.   As soon as he got airborne and crested the hill off the departure end he got  Lonnie's beacon. Jay began to deploy his flares to locate the downed  aircraft.  Lonnie later
commented that he had survived a crash landing in  an F-4 and did not want to die as a result of his rescuers 1,000,000 candle  power flares.  Lonnie and ? were rescued, Jay went on, and a great party  resulted due to the safe return of
Lonnie and ?"


Ron

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